Friday, September 23, 2011

Are you a real Jew if you agree with....?

From the inception of the Zionist State and particularly in recent times, the impression has been created in the World that there is some connection between the State, which falsely calls itself Israel, and the Jewish people as a whole. Therefore, we who continue to uphold the never-changing tradition of the Jewish people find it proper to again clarify the following points:





A Jew is one who remains faithful to the laws of the Jewish religion, that is, the Holy Torah and its commandments.


The Jewish people became a people before they had their own land, and continued to exist as a people also after they went Into exile, because our very people hood is based exclusively on the Torah.


The Holy Land was given to the Jewish people on the condition that they observe the Torah and its commandments. When they failed to do this, their sovereignty over the land was taken from them, and they went into exile. From that time, we are prohibited by the Torah with a very grave prohibition to establish a Jewish independent sovereignty in the Holy Land or anywhere throughout the world. Rather, we are obligated to be loyal to the nations under whose protection we dwell.


This situation has existed for close to 2000 years when the Jewish people were dispersed throughout all corners of the world. During this time, the Jews always remained faithful to the country in which they lived.


The Jewish people are grateful to all those merciful nations which have allowed them to observe Torah and the commandments undisturbed.


From ancient times, the relations between the Jewish and Islamic peoples have always been those of peace and brotherhood, and friendship always reigned between them. The proof of this is the fact that for centuries, in all the Arab lands, hundreds of thousands of Jews lived in honor and amidst mutual esteem.|||Are Catholic people Jews. If so, i abide with the commandants. Never use to when i was younger but with age you do realise.|||Instead of cutting and pasting from rense.com you might want to represent your own point of view, imbued with your own thoughts. Torah Judaism is supportive of both religious and political zionism and the current state of Israel is not %26quot;false%26quot; -- your claims are empty and your pretense, laughable.|||What about Messianic Jews? Surely they are still Jews?|||Blah, blah, blah. Yes I am, yes I do and now please shut up.|||So this isn%26#039;t a real question, is it? You said it in your additional details. It%26#039;s just a way for you to express your opinion about this but you had to put it in question form or your %26quot;question%26quot; would be deleted. And I%26#039;ll bet you thought we wouldn%26#039;t be able to figure that out.





Update: I just looked at your profile and read every question you asked and they are all the same thing disguised by different question headings. But none of them are real questions -- just a way for you to express your opinion over and over again. You are obsessed with this! Please, if you really do consider yourself a Jew, you would not do this! You are a shande!|||1) Judaism is centered around Israel and sees Israel as its focal point.


2) Orthodox Judaism recognises the modern state- see the writings of HaRav Kook and others


3) Jews in ISlamic lands were dhimmi. They paid extra taxes, were not allowed to be in the army, police or government. They had to sit lower than a muslim, they were not allowed to worship in public and talking about their religion in public was a crime. A Muslim converting to Judaism was liable for the detah penalty. Dhimmi could not be witnesses against Muslims and as such a Muslim could do anything he liked to a Jew including rape, theft and murder as long as no Muslim observed him doing those acts. There were massacres and expulsions of jews across the Islamic world- just fewer than in Christian countries but they still happened. And guess what- there are still Muslim countries TODAY that regard Jews as dhimmi and allow them no rights.


4) Messianic Jews are CHRISTIANS. It is the one thing that every single Jewish sect agrees on. Messianic Judaism is just a devious way of converting uneducated Jews to Christianity. If the Messianic jew is halachicly a Jew- all they need to do is repent (and sme rabbis require mikveh as well) and they will be Jews again- but for as long as they are messianic Jews they are not part of the Jewish people and are regarded as Christians|||how was copper wire invented????????








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