I%26#039;d like to know What you would do if the situation of your state would be different.
I mean a situation where Turkish people would be a minority and a Kurdistan state were existed instead of Turkey, and all of the policies of the %26quot;Kurdistan%26quot; toward the Turkish minority in that situation would be the same as the current policies of the %26quot;Turkey%26quot; toward the Kurdish minority, What would you do then?
Consider a situation where a law would applied to Turkish people through military control, boarding schools, the banning of the Turkish language and culture, changing place names, and deportation. What would you do then?
Consider a situation where Any expression of Turkish identity would be treated as a crime against the %26quot;indivisibility of the Kurdistan nation%26quot; and %26quot;territorial integrity%26quot; of Kurdistan.
What would you do then?
Consider a situation where The use of the Turkish language, music, dance, dress, personal and geographic names, and even listening to broadcasting and recorded music were all criminalized by the Kurdistan state.
What would you do then?
Consider a situation where Turks would be allowed to speak their own language in public aftre 70 years of banning.The use of Turkish in education, broadcasting and publishing would be prohibited. Anyone publishing, or attempting to publish, an objective historical analysis of the Turkish situation is subject to prosecution and imprisonment.
What would you do then?
Would you like that situation? Would you just sit back and do nothing against these actions?|||%26quot;If you%26#039;re not capable of seperating PKK terrorists from legit Kurdish citizens of Turkey then you simply don%26#039;t have what%26#039;s necessary to even talk about these things. %26quot;
I agree, and support this statement made by a user above.
You are by far barking up the wrong tree here. Don%26#039;t mess
with a countries right to defend them self against terrorists,
because than you would be stripping many countries of the
same right.
I think the Kurds are indeed oppressed, discriminated against,
and to easily disposed of when they try to speak out against
this, they deserve so much better representation...
If you want to condemn Turkey do it for
their banning of the Kurdish Democratic party,
and falsely attacking their leaders, or jailing
Kurdish children under the premise they are
terrorists as well.
The condemnation here would be purposely not knowing
the differences..
So no, Turks would not like this if in reverse,
no people would..
They need a Mandela, or a Gandhi, cause what they have now
is just killing them...|||Do not post your question twice. I have just noticed you are a very new user and have little experience in answering asking questions here yet you have been taken my a sudden urge to post silly and provocative questions and answers in this section, could this urge have something to do with your trollic inclinations? You are, I am sure, one of the users here who ask questions on par with this one.
Your question is hypothetical although you have unsuccessfully tried to make a comparison of what Turkish Kurds are supposed to have gone through, many of what you have written down is simply not true. You have minced your words here but in another answer I saw, you claimed Kurds are imprisoned and tortured every year in Turkey, excuse me for asking but what have you been smoking? One of my best friends is Kurdish and she abhors the PKK and its fascist sympathisers, just like millions of other Kurds. I have written this numerous times before, and I ask you now, how would you explain the fact that the party that has the clear blessing of the PKK (BDP) never receives more than 10% of the votes?
What do you think about people belonging to BDP making provocative and threatening speeches, one MP from this party said %26quot;His people would turn the streets of Turkey to hell%26quot; (implying PKK would start bombing urban targets, as it did only yesterday by planting a bomb on the way of a bus and martyring 5 people). IF the Turkish government is brutal as you say, how come people like this MP find the audacity to make such statements in front of the TV cameras? How come people openly cheer for PKK in rallies and get away with it? Imagine people gathering in New York and holding Osame Bin Laden posters and jumping up and down in joy. What would be the reaction of the Americans?
So what do you expect me to say under this question which lacks insight and is written in a regrettably dramatic tone seasoned with outdated 19th century nationalism? When I read the question, I thought the details contained some analysis, since it asked for a rational answer and what I find here is a bad attempt at a logical fallacy.
Turkey has had problems with human rights, but that really had little to do with one%26#039;s ethnicity. Turks, Kurds and millions of other people, who come from tens of ethnicities (I hope you are aware that it isn%26#039;t just the Kurds who live in Turkey) have suffered from mistreatment.
I also find it exceedingly biased for people to ignore and deliberately brush aside the proceedings relating to the use of Kurdish language for instance. Our government established a Kurdish language channel. There are other proceedings as well yet I always see that people such as the asker find exuberance in focussing on all the negative news concerning Turkey.
Lastly, Turkey is a democratic country and if people, be it Xs be it Ys or interest groups, feel they cannot exercise their rights as they should, they can find democratic means to express their concerns. Taking up arms, kidnapping 14 year old children and making them drug addicts so that they%26#039;ll terrorize for you is not a part of %26#039;democratic re/action%26#039; nor is killing civilians nor is killing your own soldiers.|||Kurds have exactly the same right as any other Turkish citizen in the REPUBLIC OF TURKEY, as they%26#039;re are also considered as a citizen of this country. Please be more reasonable and rational next time when you%26#039;re posting a question as such.
Consider this, if someone came to your house and said to you %26#039;get off that couch, it%26#039;s mine now, you can go sit in your bedroom from now on%26#039;, would you accept that? If every country gave land to every minority group within their borders, imagine what the world would come to.
you%26#039;re wrong by the way, there is a channel dedicated to Kurds, broadcasting in Kurdish, on which they can watch many programs and shows in Kurdish.
Turkish government sends them teachers, doctors, nurses and everything else they need, but (most of) those doctors, nurses, teachers are kidnapped and (most of the time) killed. So what rationality were you speaking about again?
About 5 minutes ago I was watching the news, watching the funerals of the young soldiers who were killed by the feral terrorists, of a young 17 year old girl who still had so many goals to achieve in this life. What was her fault? Would she even know the controversy of this topic at the innocent age of 17? So being reasonable you were talking about, right? The amazing thing is, when I saw the orphan daughter (at 2 years old) of the murdered soldier at the funeral, I couldn%26#039;t help but shed a few tears, while his proud dad was saying %26#039;Vatan sagolsun. 3 oglum ve ben variz daha, gerekirse vatan icin sehit olmaya.%26#039; - Long live the homeland. I still have myself and 3 sons to sacrifice for our homeland- So please, be reasonable and rational, put yourself in this man%26#039;s shoes for a few minutes, would you be able to say the same thing? Honestly and rationally, I would not.
Here you go. I gave you a very reasonable, honest and a rational answer.|||This is a provocative question so even if I am a Turkish user I am not going to answer this question.|||My friend, I see your point and I really resoect that, but the examples you gave are not exactly correct.
Kurds have never been denied to sepak their own language-as long as they dont refuse to learn to speak turkish as well. But the kurds di refuse it. The wanted to speak only kurdish but pls consider this: They are citizens of Turkey and the official language is turkisyh. One can speak any language they desire as long as you can speak your official language as well. Consider this: I am turk and speak chinese, french japanese etc but no turkish? How am I suppose to get along in Turkey?
Clothes: They have never been denied to wear their traditional clothes, they still do it. Everyone wears whatever they like. Please be honest here.
Kurdistan: Assuming that the expression Kurdistan means a certain regaion of Turkey, then yes, that is consi,dered as a threat and provocation because no force on earth has the right to divide this country which belongs to all of us.
Music, language (as I mentioned above) etc. has been denied because of the above mentioned reason . You are correct, kurds should have been able to have kurdish songs tv ect, but I we know exactly what their real intention was. Its not about only songs and language,its about getting land. They wanted to turn that region into a kurdish region and later claim that they own that lang just as they do it today.They saw that the government realized their goal and did not allow that. Then they started to revish that lang by killing innocents.
I am not saying that the government handled the situation always very delicate and correct, but the kurds are stubbern and refused any direction which came from the law enforcements. They did it intentiaonally and provocatively. Its a really long and deep subject and actually cannot be discussed here. The only thing I can say is that the kurds - even if they are right in their matter- are following a wrong way. Sometimes, people must adjust to the enviorement they live in but you guys refused any - any rule /law.
So please, dont play the fair and reasonable here. We turks and even you kurds know exactly what it is about and how unfair you guys %26quot;play this game%26quot;.
I personally will never ever forgive the kurds (almost all of them) for causing 40.000 innocent ppl losing their lives in a brutal, grusome way.
This is my reasonable answer to you.Next time I might not be this patient, because we Turks are sick and tired of you kurds making trouble and killing our soldiers, kids and ppl and we are about to explode.|||the repetitive question has already been owned by the answerers above. no need to keep repeating the same things over and over again for ignorant people to understand. we%26#039;re living in a time where immense amounts of resources are by your very reach. educate yourself if you have the intention. Personally, i%26#039;m fed up with the same sorry questions still alleging BS like 30,000 Kurds killed by Turkish army. If you%26#039;re not capable of seperating PKK terrorists from legit Kurdish citizens of Turkey then you simply don%26#039;t have what%26#039;s necessary to even talk about these things. And by %26quot;you%26quot; i mean all the ignorant questioners here in Y!A who are failing hard on the comprehension of this delicate matter and yet talk as if they%26#039;re an expert!
Anyways, read what Sorceress wrote a couple of times and rethink your grounds.
the question, with all due respect, makes no sense anyway. Turks had sovereign states since 3rd century B.C up to this very day whereas Kurds never had a state and always stayed as an ethnic group. You were saying reasonable? rational?|||In order to over coming İranian fear, using some other crossing bear.|||I think you asked it twice.
First of all, there is no Kurdistan.
Secondly, I think you need to learn the history of Turkey before you ask this question. It is not such simple. Do you know how many people died for Turkey in the Independence War, and people are still dying, not only soldiers and officers, but also their daughters,wives and local people. Recently, 4 soldiers and one of the soldiers%26#039; daughter have died. You may not be understand because every morning when you wake up, you don%26#039;t hear that more soldiers has died. Of course I don%26#039;t mean that we need to abuse all the Kurdish people. Turkey has made a mistake. Many Kurdish people work in fields and constructions, etc.(They do hard jobs, but their salaries are low). This is the only mistake that we do.
Thirdly, the terror organization is trying to divide the country.
Lastly, you say %26quot;would you like the situation?%26quot; Now I ask you: If your grandfathers fought for the independence of your country and there were still deaths for a land and if a group tried to divide the country, would you like the situation.
Please think again.|||I%26#039;d emigrate to the real lands of the real Turks...to Central Asia...lol
And don%26#039;t dramatize everything....Kurds have all the rights as Turks... No one asks a person whether he is kurd or turk when applying for anything in Turkey.
And kurds speak kurdish whenever they want... I hear many Kurds speakish kurdish ...what else do you want to do???!! You wanna rule turks? Kurds can do everything as a simple turkish person does..
but kurds are greedy
Kurds want to establish a new country in the lands of turks? Ottomans watered these lands with their blood. And Turkey in many wars! Kurds cannot take even a dust
I wanna ask you %26quot;why?%26quot; ... Have you ever thought WHY THE HELL Turks always suspects Kurds?
PKK...PKK is kurd and %90 of Kurds support PKK discreetly. PKK is a terrorist group. And It%26#039;s known that Kurds have sympathy towards PKK.. We are not some psycho who suspect everything without just reasons.
Kurds should go to North Iraq and there establish their so called country. not in the borders of current Turkey.|||you are right that kurdish languagewas forbidden in turkey and any expression for kurdish identity was seen a threath in turkey years ago. But why? Because of terrorism. Turkey wanted to decrease terrorism so they did that. before terrorism there was no such thing in turkey. So you cannot say that pkk is right to kill people because kurdish was forbidden in turkey. Because pkk happened first and banning kurdish was a reaction to stop terrorism. People were getting angry at them people who were speaking kurdish. Thats true. But why? Because to speak in kurdish was equal to saying I am pkk supporter. Pkk is responsible for that because before pkk there was no such thing
And plus do you know when turkish people stopped thinking like that? when pkk terrorisim ended in the years 1999-2004. So terrorism ended and prejudices ended. It stared with terrorism and ended by the end of terrorism. Now everyone can speak kurdish and noone gets angry. Why? Because turkish people understood that speaking kurdish is not equal to being pkk supporter. SOOOO, people of turkey is not against kurdish people but pkk! See?
Even in the most bloody years of terrorism president of turkey was kurdish. Why? Because he was not pkk supporter and he could be president. On the other hand there are some kurdish parlamenters in turkey who are imprisoned.Why? Because they were encouriging people to support terrororism See??
And Dont forget that most of the people pkk was killed was Kurds who rejected to support them!!!!!
