though respect is a man-made idealogy
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What about an ant farm, where the worker ants tend to the queen?
those ants respect their position and respect the authority enough to tend to it.
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well i see it as loyalty
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true, but being loyal is also a sign of respect. Respect to me is courtesy enough to empathize. Which is interesting, considering empathy is a
very profound emotion in society. If ants can empathize, then what other emotions can they feel?
geeze... crazy ideas today.
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how do we know ants emphasize
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because, if ants are loyal to their queen. A form of loyalty is also a form of empathy. (Feeling what they feel, and understanding them.) Then
ants empathize.
I wonder if there are any sociopathic ants that aren't loyal to their queen.
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hmmm can we possibly say an animal has done wrong
can we say an animal has done %26quot;evil%26quot;
or even %26quot;good%26quot;
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yes. Even if they don't understand what they're doing. If I'm following our criminal justice system... a psychotic person unaware of his crimes
can still be punished for it.
but in my own opinion, nature is much different than society. Our life is artificial
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could very well be
though what example could an animal do wrong and be psychopathic
a snake kills a mouse for food
a snake can kill anything for food
if they kill a person would that be a wrong action on the part of the snake
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any holistic action such as a mother devouring its children for food. Despite it being 'normal' for that species. It is completely dysfunctional
in the animal kingdom.
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it happens quite often for hamsters
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But the question is... why?
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well they're unaware its their children
wouldn't it just be the intention of an animal to judge it as a psychopath
not the action
if a hamster knows its eating its children it can be labeled a psychopathy
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judging anything is subjective. And yes... if it eats its own children then yes. But anything that goes against social norms is psychotic.
and in the animal kingdom, there really isn't a social structure.
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who decides what are social norms
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society as a whole
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but what is 99 percent say one thing
and the other 1 percent say something different
back in the times of slavery
slavery was a social norm
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Then the other 1 percent can start their own commune. The 99% over rule the 1%. In almost all situations, the majority win.
Except in this society... where 1% over rule the 99%. lol
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lol
though the question is why should one care if they are going against the social norms
if it doesn't really matter to anything
since everything is subjective
how exactly would one be %26quot;punished%26quot; for being a psychopath
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they shouldn't, but it disrupts the social equilibrium. Actions start a reaction. It only matters if your actions affect others... which is
almost likely, through intimidation or persuasion. For example. Ted bundy goes on a murder spree, that action changes the outcome of hundreds if
not thousands of lives.
People read, hear, and see about his life, and maybe want to emulate it.
Not saying it's 'bad'. It's just a holistic action that disrupts the social equilibrium.
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right but the thing is how could we convince ted bundy not to do the things he did
if he doesn't care about anyone but himself
how exactly would his actions have affected him
why would one care about disrupting the social equilibrium if that one person will not feel the effects of it
there's nothing to punish them
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then there would be no social equilibrium, and there wouldn't be a social structure. Nothing would be considered conventional or holistic.
morality wouldn't exist
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sounds like nihlism
maybe that's the scary reality people can't admit to themselves
the thing is have u ever wondered why its ok to eat animals
but not humans
according to society
if humans and animals are indeed the same
or why anyone who believes that if humans and animals are the same would ever eat animals
would i be called a murderer for just killing a bug
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humans and animals aren't really the same. Animals are hunted for food and kept as pets. I would put animals 1 level below slave. lol
And someone calling you a murderer is judging you, which is relative to their thinking. A monk would call you a murderer, but I wouldn't.
and these ideals are taught through either life experiences, or their social normals / equilibrium.
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that status of animals was due to the fact that humans thought they were superior to animals
but the question is what would make humans think that first off
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seems like we have a genetic egotism. Generally people dislike disagreements, because they think they're right. (supe
What do you think about this conversation?
Uhh, it's just a regular conversation ?
